The 37 Plays Podcast
Each fortnight we will publish a new episode where playwright Mark Ravenhill will discuss two playwriting tips with an invited guest writer, as well as finding out what sparked their interest in writing.
Episodes
Tuesday Nov 29, 2022
37 Plays Podcast... with Gary Owen
Tuesday Nov 29, 2022
Tuesday Nov 29, 2022
It’s the last episode of season 2 and we’re joined by playwright Gary Owen. He talks about knowing yourself as a writer and the liberating moment where you find a play that breaks all the rules, igniting the possibilities of playwriting.
From Mark’s 101 Playwriting Tips, Gary chose:
#96: When you have a strong sense of what you want to achieve with a play, feedback can be useful-you’ll use the notes that will help you realise your play. If you don’t have that sense, feedback will blow you off course. Choose carefully when to share your play
Gary’s tip: Kill for your darlings
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Tuesday Nov 15, 2022
37 Plays podcast... with Nina Segal
Tuesday Nov 15, 2022
Tuesday Nov 15, 2022
It’s episode 5! Mark Ravenhill has a chat with playwright Nina Segal. Nina is the recipient of the 2022 Playwright's Scheme Award, on attachment with the RSC and her play O, Island!, produced at the RSC in October 2022, was shortlisted for the George Devine Award.
From Mark’s 101 Playwriting Tips, Nina chose:
#99: My definition: go through script and rewrite lines = polish. Ditto but rewrite scenes = a rewrite. Take script apart, question fundamental things about it, rebuild again from the ground up with substantial new material = a new draft. Allow for 3 – 7 drafts.
Nina’s Tip: You’re the only person who can write the play you’re going to write.
Tuesday Nov 01, 2022
37 Plays Podcast with... Sally Abbott
Tuesday Nov 01, 2022
Tuesday Nov 01, 2022
In the fourth 37 Plays podcast episode, Mark Ravenhill is joined by playwright and screenwriter Sally Abbott.
From Mark’s 101 Playwriting Tips, Sally chose:
#4 Try writing a draft zero/dirty draft. Let the characters say all the exposition, themes, everything they think and feel. Don’t show this to anyone – even yourself ! – and then write the first draft. Sarah Kane told me she did this for Blasted.
Sally’s Tip: The Blank Page: ”the reason this is totally rubbish is”… allow yourself to write all the things you don’t like with your draft and allow your subconscious to start solving it.
Tuesday Oct 18, 2022
37 plays podcast... with Iman Qureshi
Tuesday Oct 18, 2022
Tuesday Oct 18, 2022
Mark Ravenhill’s guest for episode 3 is award-winning writer for stage, screen and radio, Iman Qureshi
From Mark’s 101 Playwriting Tips, Iman chose: #20 To get by we develop a persona that says ‘don’t hurt me – I’m so funny or clever or sensitive or special etc’. It’s limiting to use playwriting as a way of continuing to project this persona. It’s frightening at first but liberating to write plays from a more authentic self.
Don’t use writing a play as a way of building your shell. Let the play ‘be’ – you should be I think a bit embarrassed that it’s angrier or funnier or more or less political than you’d like people to think you are.
Iman’s tip: "For me, theatre is about the change of the human heart. More than anything else possibly, it's a medium that really lets you walk a mile in someone else's shoes. So when I'm approaching a play, I always have at the back of my mind whose heart do I want to change and how, and is this play currently doing that?"
Tuesday Oct 04, 2022
37 Plays Podcast... with Sami Ibrahim
Tuesday Oct 04, 2022
Tuesday Oct 04, 2022
In the second 37 Plays podcast episode, Mark Ravenhill is joined by playwright Sami Ibrahim.
From Mark’s 101 Playwriting Tips, Sami chose #67: Most of us have years writing apprentice plays -each one like trying on a jacket. they’re fine, they fit OK. Then you write a play and the jacket completely moves with you, second skin. You haven’t reached the destination-the journey’s begun. How I felt with Shopping and Fucking.
Sami’s tip: Don’t second-guess your instincts or make assumptions about what a theatre wants you to write.
Thursday Sep 22, 2022
37 Plays Podcast... with Isobel McArthur
Thursday Sep 22, 2022
Thursday Sep 22, 2022
The first episode in the second season of 37 Plays has Mark Ravenhill joined by Olivier award winning playwright and performer Isobel McArthur.
From Mark’s 101 Playwriting Tips, Isobel chose: #16: Have characters say at the top of a scene who they are, where they are and what they’re up to. It will push you to make these decisions. Vagueness may feel satisfyingly ambiguous but will soon lose momentum. You can make exposition more subtle in a later draft.
"This one sounds like it might lead to obvious writing but rather than obvious most people start a scene vague, hedging their bets and then the scene runs out of steam."
Isobel’s Tip: If your scenes are feeling stilted... try disrespecting the papery document
Tuesday Apr 19, 2022
37 plays podcast…. with Chinonyerem Odimba
Tuesday Apr 19, 2022
Tuesday Apr 19, 2022
In episode six of the Plays Podcast, Mark Ravenhill is joined by playwright, screenwriter, and director Chinonyerem Odimba. Chino is also the Artistic Director and Chief Executive of tiata fahodzi.
From Mark’s 101 Playwriting Tips, Chino chose: #12: There’s something cruel about constructing a play, putting characters in situations that are everything from awkward to very painful. Don’t shy from this cruelty but use it responsibly, explore all its ramifications and don’t use it cynically or for effect.
Chino’s own tip is: “One of the things I tend to do when I’m writing a character is that I have a conversation with them…Each and every one of my characters if I can. And that conversation consists of me telling them a secret and them telling me a secret…”
The music for this podcast was composed by Sarah Llewellyn.
Tuesday Apr 05, 2022
37 plays podcast... with Winsome Pinnock
Tuesday Apr 05, 2022
Tuesday Apr 05, 2022
In this episode of the 37 Plays Podcast, Mark Ravenhill is joined by Winsome Pinnock, a writer for stage, radio, film and television.
From Mark’s 101 Playwriting Tips, Winsome chose:
#31: ‘Show don’t tell’ – a red herring? From the Greek plays messenger speech on, plenty of great plays have had a lot of ‘tell’. As long as the ‘tell’ changes the characters on stage and realigns the action of the play. Alternating show and tell works well.
Winsome’s own tip is: “In order to get to know your characters, get them to write you letters. I often have my characters write to me, and they might write about me actually…they write about my process, the discoveries I am making during the process. They’ll question me and throw me challenges.”
The music for this podcast was composed by Sarah Llewellyn.
Tuesday Mar 08, 2022
37 Plays Podcast... with Danusia Samal
Tuesday Mar 08, 2022
Tuesday Mar 08, 2022
In the third 37 Plays podcast episode, Mark Ravenhill is joined by actress, writer and jazz singer, Danusia Samal.
From Mark’s 101 Playwriting Tips, Danusia chose:
#55: The stage is a place of questioning, realignment, transformation. Choose as your starting point nagging doubt, the question that won’t leave you alone. Let the play embody, amplify your question. An acceptance of living with the irresolvable is still an ending
Danusia’s own tip is: “Give yourself distance from what you’ve written. If you get in a muddle with it, or you’re constantly editing or changing or going back, you have to give yourself space from it. A few days or a week ideally. Suddenly, you’ll come back with clear eyes and be able to see the play.”
The music for this podcast was composed by Sarah Llewellyn.
Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
37 Plays Podcast... with Hannah Khalil
Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
Mark Ravenhill is joined by playwright and screenwriter Hannah Khalil.
From Mark’s 101 Playwriting Tips, Hannah chose:
#5 For a theatre play, an hour of playing time is 9,000 to 10,000 words. Basic but no one tells you this! Think in minutes – after a thousand words, the audience are six minutes into the play. And so on. Writing a play is ‘sculpting in time’.
Hannah’s own tip is: “Before you start writing your play, convince yourself it will never be produced…. To tell myself that this is just for me, I can write whatever I want, and no one is going to judge me for it, allows me to be a bit freer and not worry too much about how it will be received.”
The music for this podcast was composed by Sarah Llewellyn.

Writing the Stories of our Nation
37 Plays is a new national playwriting project led by the RSC and our partner theatres.
We are seeking the stories of our times: the comedies, the tragedies and the untold histories. We invite anyone in the UK of any age who would like to write a play to join us over the next 12 months - now is the time to tell your story.
The chosen 37 plays will be performed script-in-hand across the UK and online in autumn 2023. Submissions open on 1 January 2023.